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Discussion about controversial subjects unrelated to the transgender journey such as politics and religion are discouraged

I don't want to cause any problems with anyone. So I am hoping that this resonates with at few members here and any opposition about anything I write, can give me some space. In real life, and other platforms people seem to always want confrontation. I do not understand why people are this way around me. I just hope if your out there and you decide to want to be confrontational. Don't ruin my post by attracting moderators. With that being said.

I don't believe I am considered new to subjects related to the transgender journey, and maybe before I started my journey being transgender may have not been really political. And please if you made it this far reading my post, I am asking a question;

Can anyone tell me when being transgender was not political?

Thank you for reading

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@lux7961 Lana, I read this yesterday, and it was one of those post where I go off and think a bit. So, what exactly is 'politics' anyway? Well, one definition says: "Politics is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals, such as the distribution of status or resources."

That said, one may ask, 'when has anything not been political'. For every person, in any group, something has always been seen as political. There will always be some group that is marginalized more than others. In a pile of apples, there is always the largest and the smallest, or the sweetest or the most sour, etc.

So, did we maybe just win up winning that lottery for 'next one in the spotlight'? Maybe.  Considering that there have been transgender people all over the world for as long as people have been recording history, I'm sure one can find better, and worse times for not only the transgender community, but for any community; be it religion, skin color, economics, etc. If you can label a person, then at some time, that label has hung the lowest.

It is part and parcel of the human condition, and not exactly a shining example of our better achievements. Will it get better? Yes, at some point. Can it get worse? It could.

The nice part, that I pin my hopes on, is that, for the most part, we as humans, have figured out that discriminating against others isn't really a good and positive thing. So, we have created some rules, that while generally followed, sometimes take a slight detour. And then some other folks go, 'now wait a minute'. And then a formal debate ensues. And after sometime passes, everyone seems to get their mind right, decide a few things, and then move on to the next pressing concern.

Life will go one. Today's problem may be tomorrow's opportunity. The worst anyone can do is loose sight of their goal, and loose their wits. If that is done, you have forfeited the game. Hugs

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@michellelarsen1 I see I attracted a moderator. By the way, I liked your PSA. But I don't think I am ready to make that step. 

Maybe I am going about this question the wrong way. From the response DeeAnn made, being transgender is now a wedge issue since I came out. I won't expand on current stuff today. Like most sites, creating controversial topics that put people at odds with each other would likely get me banned or removed. And on other sites, they live for the controversial stuff. That's why I joined and was specific about about what I wanted in the replies. I want to know how it felt to be transgender before 2010. I imagine that is a long shot, cause from what I am reading from here, The site owner transitioned in 2011 and her first blog post was in 2008 as a crossdresser. I have chatted with older transgender woman but I find that talking about it is not the same as someone sitting down and writing about their feelings. As it may seem to me. 

Since you replied, if I even I cross the line in my topics, I am open to feed back to why. 

Thank you for your reply Michelle

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@lux7961 Heck, you have crossed no lines. In fact, just the opposite. Thoughtful and respectful discourse is always the 'order of the day' and is always welcomed and encouraged. The world is sorely lacking that these days. More issues could be resolved through people just talking, and we would find out that we really aren't different and all in the same boat. Maybe one of those times when we need to step back and see the forest, and get the bigger picture. This is the only planet we have right now, so.... hugs

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@lux7961 Lana, I do remember the exact moment I first heard of the word 'transgender' (or phrase to that extant). It was my senior year in high school (73-74) and a friend of mine had written his research paper in English class of the subject. I remember thinking along the lines of being very intrigued. That I think started me down the path that lead me to sitting here and writing this; with many 'interesting' stops along the way. Hugs

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@michellelarsen1 I first was made aware of the word transgender when I was do marriage counseling in the early 2000s. I think its funny to think about it, cause I was there under the impression my spouse and I were working on communication issues but her intentions where make me deal with crossdressing. Even today, the word transvestic fetishes sound so bad to me and false. 

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I think you would need to go back about 10 years. Politicians began to use anti-transgender strategies to create a wedge issue at that point.

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@flatlander48 Ironically I started my journey in 2015. Before then I have no idea how the world was perceiving transgender people. If a certain celebrity had not came out at the same time. I would  like to also say, I had no idea who or what they are famous besides being associated with a certain family.

All I do remember about that time in my life, It wasn't a negative issue and I felt safe to take steps in my life to purse something I only dreamed about. Anything was possible.

I definitely do not feel that way at this time in my life, except for the fact I am willing to fight for what I believe is right. And privately, I deserve to live my life with the same initial acceptance I lived with when I was in denial. Sorry to drop all that in this reply, I would like to find something positive to be a baseline so when all this hatred and negative attention finally fades away, there is a path forward to finally living a fearless happy life.

Thank you DeeAnn for your reply

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@flatlander48 thank you DeeAnn, after I finish my evening errands, I will give it a read.

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@flatlander48   I agree with DeeAnn.  Marg

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@margprodue I do believe I agree with DeeAnn also. But I am hoping to get some real life replies from those who likely started transition pre 2010. Those who transitioned 2010 to 2015 would be nice also. I have many more questions to ask in the future, I am not sure Ill get answers that feel to be true. But I'll keep trying.

I should have said nice to meet you Marg first and thank you for your reply. 

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@lux7961 No problem, and I wish you well on your quest.  Marg

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