Exploring the Controversy over Transgender Individuals Competing

I am addressing the recent issue of transgender individuals competing against CIS Male/Females. I had no problem remaining unbiased; what you’re about to read, I’ve documented with listed URLs at the end. I was reading and hearing girls discussing this topic, and it didn’t make sense. I attempted to incorporate websites that are diverse and opinionated while sharing the same science. At first, I thought legislators were using the wrong identification, Transgender/Transsexual, but this is much more than that and clarified in its content.

For instance, 95% of cisgender women have testosterone below 2 nanomoles per liter. And in a recent study of nearly 250 trans women, 94% of them had testosterone below 2 nanomoles per liter. It doesn’t really matter whether the limit is 5 or 10 nanomoles per liter because most trans women are going to be under two anyway, (emphasis on Trans women). No one is correctly identifying which type of developmental stage they’re in. This is prevalent in essentially every article I read. From the time we’re diagnosed with gender dysphoria till lower surgery, we are called simply Trans girls, and here is where the problem both begins and grows.

The clinical definition of a transgender person has to do with the phycological aspects of feeling like a woman with Gender Dysphoria diagnosed by a psychologist. They are mostly male having testicles that produce testosterone. This line isn’t crossed until a person changes their body towards the other gender either medically with HRT or surgically and the person then becomes a transsexual pre-op.
Transsexuals range from individuals simply on HRT to those who have undergone GRS and are anatomically correct females. This is where the confusion starts. We should separate them into Pre-op/post-op in sports due to what you’re about to read. The carry-over from Pre-op to post-op is blanketed as Transwomen so it resembles an “all for one or none for all” rollercoaster ride scenario. So, hang on. Here We Go.

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The controversy lies in the blood and development. Hemoglobin levels are typically higher in males. But Hemoglobin levels, which allow more oxygen to get into the muscles (often measured as hematocrit levels) is the percentage of blood that’s red blood cells. That’s the reason that endurance athletes go to altitude to train, or (those who cheat) use blood doping or EPO. Hemoglobin levels follow testosterone. Within weeks of starting testosterone suppression, testosterone levels will be within female norms, but it takes a longer time for hemoglobin to get to the female norms, probably in the 3- to the 4-month range. That’s roughly the life cycle of red blood cells, but it’s realistic to believe that advantage can be achieved in this time frame. Hemoglobin levels are the single most crucial factor for the advantage. That’s based on clinical experience from Dr. Harper of Web M.D. She states, “For this reason alone, Transgender M2F’s with testicles should never be able to compete against CIS females.”

But furthering the controversy is that a person born Male will have larger and differently shaped muscles. Males are more muscular than women. Women are just over half as strong as men in their upper bodies, and about two-thirds as strong in their lower bodies. While the male metabolism burns calories faster, the female metabolism converts more food to fat. Women store the extra fat in their breasts, hips, and buttocks, and as subcutaneous fat in the bottom layer of their skin. Our hormones play a part in this metabolism difference that we’re respectively born into and grow. But just because we physically change doesn’t mean the way or how our bodies metabolize food does. Yes, the estrogen will shrink the muscle’s as per se, but a person who has developed as a male going off the estrogen can allow this M2F athlete to redevelop the muscles. Quoting Dr. Harper, “There should be no question in anyone else’s mind either that trans women will maintain strength advantages over cis women, even after hormone therapy simply by the males’ basic developmental differences.” Bottom line is that it’s simply too easy to cheat legally.

I ask that you take a quick look at the F2M individuals. It seems no one is worried about the F2M’s beating the males because of the physical difference. This seems obvious because pound-for-pound the CIS male (conditioned the same, by the same coach) is more likely to perform better in competitions. Look what happens when CIS females compete against CIS Males. Spin that around 180 degrees and you have the reason that all the controversy is aimed at the M2Fs and is the main reason for the bans.

It should be that humans with testicles should not be competing against women. That is a medical fact. Post-op transsexuals not having testicles and who have had surgery to become a woman have lab numbers that are consistent with CIS females. It seems to work for the Olympic Commission and the masses. So, the legislators blanket their arguments. The masses conclude that will transpose into an advantage for M2Fs and will then cause doubt every time a post-op wins an event before any genuine science is considered, and this is wrong.

Progress is happening, but until testing becomes more regular and random, we’re never going to find out. Competitors can know that all the levels within the blood and urine are equal and consistent, even after surgery. If this sounds confusing, it really isn’t. But if we don’t start a dedicated program soon, our legislators may announce that we should compete within ourselves as transgender individuals. Further testing should become more strict, adamant, and random across the board for these post-op girls as well until we know more about this to be a consistent decision to allow or disallow anyone from competing. If one looks at what’s happening across the pond in Europe and the U/K, they are addressing it differently, testing and documenting every event along with levels of hormones in the body. This is where the serious science is being done. They are more advanced in their programs because transgender individuals have been competing there and in England, Canada, and Australia for years and they are already testing randomly which again, is more expensive but has led the Olympics to allow post-ops with three rules have to be followed strictly with no deviation.

1) the person must have had SRS/GRS with an orchiectomy/gonadal removal done.
2) The person must have documentation of both name and gender change done,
3) and finally, they must have documented tests done that prove the individual has been on HRT for a period of no less than 2 years before competing to remove the Hemoglobin advantage in M2Fs and even the playing field. As for F2M’s, all are the same and testosterone levels must dictate safe levels and consistent usage throughout the period of no less than two years as well.

So, there is light at the end of the tunnel. It simply sounds like they need to categorize us better and allow better testing, and that should clear up more of their arguments and confusion. But that’s too easy. I hope it allows all girls to follow their dreams wherever they may take them.

Huggz Tia

 

resources:
https://www.livescience.com/33513-men-vs-women-our-physical-differences-explained.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_sports#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20IOC%20approved,lifts%20and%20won%20no%20medals.
https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20210715/do-trans-women-athletes-have-advantages
https://www.bbc.com/sport/46453958
https://www.sportsperformancebulletin.com/endurance-injuries-and-health/endurance-health-and-lifestyle/transgender-women-in-female-sport-why-biology-matters/

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Hey girls ! My name is Tia. I am now a post-op transsexual female as I was operated 6/Feb/21. 3 years of HRT and as many here at TGH. I am now here to help as many assisted me through my journey. I am the veteran's Ambassador to also assist any Vets to work the system for benefits.. Drop me a line or catch me in chat as I am always here to help as well as make new friends Huggz Tia

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DeeAnn Hopings
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DeeAnn Hopings(@flatlander48)
3 months ago

I am a member of a local group called Your Women’s Circle. Leading up to September’s monthly gathering, the founder of the group asked me to talk about trans women and sports. As I was the only trans woman in attendance, gave some data about where things sat for me and my history, some data about the trans community and finally my impressions about what is happening with the IOC. What is in print is a bit sketchy about Caster Semenya due to privacy concerns, but I haven’t run across anything that suggested she knew she was intersex until the… Read more »

Mx. Margaux the Faery Goth-Mother
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3 months ago

A close friend, with whom I ran track and Cross-Country in high school, had an interesting take on the subject. His challenge was that he doesn’t have an issue with transgenderism but he sees any kind of hormone usage by any athlete, CIS or Trans, as being unfair. I’m not sure if I agree with him but he makes a strong case – if we make an exception for trans folks, then we have to make exceptions for everyone. I can see that being a potential ‘Pandora’s Box’ for sports organizations. The challenge, as you state in your article, is… Read more »

SophieFR
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4 months ago

Hi Tia,
Well done for being courageous enough to write this piece.
I’m sure you anticipated getting mixed views, and you got them – LOL!
Lines have to be drawn somewhere on these issues, and there will always be those on either side, right on it, or blinded to it. No matter where that line is drawn in our perception!
I know clearly and without doubt where I stand on these issues, and agree generally with your article, that you have clearly take a great deal of time to put together. No doubt to avoid unnecessary and unsubstantiated criticism!
Sophie

Corrinenow Smithly
Corrinenow Smithly(@corrinetg)
4 months ago

In my MUCH younger years, I was a world class swimmer (think Olympics, Pan American games, World Championships, Mark ‘wins everything’ Spitz) I would probably beat any woman who competed against me, simply because I had stronger, and more, muscle mass. However, if I had my testicles gone (I don’t) and wasn’t producing testosterone, (or started the demise of producing it) then it would be a different story. Now of course, athletics has changed a great deal, and they know more about the body than ever before, training is much more based on science than what I did. Swim! Pace… Read more »

DeeAnn Hopings
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DeeAnn Hopings(@flatlander48)
4 months ago

You didn’t address what I said about what will happen for high schoolers. It is highly unlikely that school budgets can tolerate a parallel set of competitions. It is also highly unlikely that high schoolers will have gender affirmation surgery while they are in high school. As I said, for those M>F young people, it is either as an AMAB person or not at all.

Personally, I suspect that it will be a LONG time before any of this is reasonably sorted. In the meantime, perhaps a generation of trans athletes will be sacrificed…

DeeAnn Hopings
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DeeAnn Hopings(@flatlander48)
4 months ago
Reply to  Ms. Tia Tracy

Finals? Geez, that is ancient history. I graduated from college 50 years ago!?!?

Anyway, one additional point. No one ever really factors in being intersex except when Caster Semenya was in the news. Potentially, that throws a wrench into everything.

By the way, if folks think that testing and inspecting is OK for trans people, then I would suggest that EVERYONE be tested and inspected…

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Rebecca(@airlane1979)
4 months ago
Reply to  DeeAnn Hopings

Why should testing be only regarding gender? There are many other inequalities in sports, as there are in every other field of human activity. I propose measuring runners’ inside legs and lung capacities, and then allowing only those competitors with equal results to run in the same races. I also propose segregating student athletes between those with the benefits of private tuition and those who attended the far less well-funded state schools. Or else we could give state students a significant head start, thus publicly humiliating them.

DeeAnn Hopings
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DeeAnn Hopings(@flatlander48)
4 months ago
Reply to  Airlane1979

That wasn’t the point. Conservatives want to physically inspect trans kids. My point is if you want to inspect trans kids, EVERYONE should be subject to that.

Rebecca
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Rebecca(@airlane1979)
4 months ago
Reply to  Ms. Tia Tracy

Okay. But you didn’t even try to address any of the points I made. Sure, I agree: male bodies are on average stronger than female bodies. A logical extension of that is that stronger females should not compete against weaker females. Do you agree with that?

Do you also support the socialist case for ending private education, as I do?

DeeAnn Hopings
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DeeAnn Hopings(@flatlander48)
4 months ago
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No, because it would also end the possibility of scholarships for kids of non-wealthy parents…

Rebecca
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Rebecca(@airlane1979)
4 months ago

“humans with testicles should not be competing against women” can be justified only if we refuse to accept the inherent unfairness of all competitive sports. Every human is physically, psychologically and emotionally unique; we have all had unique childhoods and educations. If we are to eliminate transgender women from competing against cis women if those trans women don’t pass an arbitrary measure, why stop there? Taller people must not compete against shorter people. There must be inside leg measurements before every race, with races only between those of exactly the same length. Lung capacity amongst competitors in marathon races must… Read more »

DeeAnn Hopings
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DeeAnn Hopings(@flatlander48)
4 months ago

I think there are some issues with the IOC requirements that will cause problems. There are still a few states that do not allow gender change on birth certificates under any circumstances. If you were born in those states, there doesn’t seem to be any way to meet that requirement. There are many states that will allow gender change on birth certificates, but affirmation surgery is a requirement. Right now it is very unlikely that a young person under the age of 18 will have the surgery. During high school, that would mean that they could only compete under their… Read more »

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